Showing posts with label carnegie lawsuit. Show all posts
Showing posts with label carnegie lawsuit. Show all posts

Monday, October 1, 2012

Trout Unlimited Defends OHV Trail from Eco-Lawsuit in CO




Hell has frozen over.  OHV enthusiasts in California continue under the threat of trail closures based on our potential impacts to anadromous fish populations in the Sierra and Coastal mountains. For decades OHV recreationists have worked hard with agency staff to maintain trails so that any potential impacts will be minimized.  However at the end of the day, many of us believe that OHV recreation has coexisted with anadromous fish (even the non-existent Carnegie Hoax Fish at Carnegie SVRA) for years in our coastal waterways and mountain streams.

HQ believes our position was strengthened today by an article about the greenback cutthroat trout in Bear Creek near Colorado Springs, CA.  Here you have a coalition of user groups including Trout Unlimited, OHV groups, and others working to reroute a long existing OHV trail and voicing opposition to a recent lawsuit by CBD to close the trail before the reroute is made.

Article on Greenback Cutthroat Trout and OHV Trail Placement


 

HQ believes that coalitions of various stakeholder groups can find solutions that both protect the environment while allowing for motorized use on designated trails.  How refreshing and cost-effective that approach is compared to the legal route often selected by CBD, PEER, and other branches of the extreme environmental movement to impose their highly selective non-motorized agenda on the public.

 

EXTRA HOMEWORK:
 
Case Study of Eco-Groups Opposing OHV Efforts to protect Wild and Scenic Rivers from heavy siltation during winter months.  Local eco-groups actually got up in front of the Del Norte County Board of Supervisors and defended agency road ripping during the winter rainy season.
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2010/05/historic-lawsuit-filed-in-northern.html


Bogus Eco-Lawsuit at Carnegie SVRA
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2012/06/carnegie-lawsuit-win-makes-local-press.html


 

Thanks for your interest in trail management!

 

 

 

 


Friday, June 29, 2012

Carnegie Lawsuit Win Makes Local Press


Some of the Crew at the 2009 Carnegie Rally


Although the green’s attack on the CA OHV grants program continues to be a hot issue, a local newspaper did a story on the recent lawsuit settlement (a big OHV win) at Carnegie SVRA.

June 29, 2012 Tracy Press Article
http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Recreation+area+to+remain+open%20&id=19144209#cb_post_comment_19144209



What the story fails to highlight is that the plaintiffs had to pay about $500K of their own legal fees.
That is huge win for OHV since the courts often grant “paid in full” tax-payer funded legal fees to environmental lawyers.


This story draws attention to the fact that this country needs tort reform.  Here is a recent DOJ report that shows millions of dollars were paid to CBD – the main anti-OHV litigation firm in the country.


DOJ Report
http://naturalresources.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=301242


PS - Here is another article with a green spin including sharp comments from Congressman John Garamendi's sister who lives next to the park and has fought to close it.
http://www.independentnews.com/news/article_edc89080-c15c-11e1-aae2-0019bb2963f4.html#.T-3A5SPaGL4.facebook
They too forgot to mention that the greens had to pay 500K of their own legal fees.


Thanks for your interest!




Friday, June 22, 2012

Big OHV Victory - Court Dismisses Carnegie Lawsuit!!!

The Famous Carnegie Hoax Fish
(it's the only fish found in the creek)

The Recreation HQ is very happy to announce that the bogus lawsuit filed by hard-core anti-OHV groups during the Christmas Season of 2009 has been dismissed with prejudice by the courts.
BRC News Release (with link to Stipulation)

I know many of you attended the Christmas Rally in 2009 to help keep Carnegie open for families to enjoy during the Christmas/New Year’s Holiday.

HQ Blog on that 2009 Carnegie Fight

HQ Blog with story of Christmas/New Year’s 2009 Fight and Rally at the Park

From what HQ hears from its S.F Bay Area legal sources is that Karen and Company got stuck with paying most of their own legal fees (about 500k).  What a change of course in our legal system when a lot of the time… the taxpayers get stuck with paying for all the tabs created by eco-lawsuits.

I wonder if the courts are being to smell the green  “Skunk at the Party” and are realizing that politically-based lawsuits have worn out their welcome in the legal arena.  Only time will tell.

HQ Blog on Green Skunks at the Party with their faux OHV groups  (great history lesson)

Maybe the land-use political pendulum is swinging back to the middle.
Thanks to all for your continued support!

Thursday, February 11, 2010

Recreation HQ is Closed Feb. 11-15

The Recreation HQ will be closed Feb. 11-15 and will reopen on Feb. 16.

In the meantime, here is a quick update on a couple of issues.

Carnegie SVRA
The park continues to operate while the lawsuit is being reviewed by the appellate court.
Based on The General’s experience on land-use cases… no news is good news.

Clear Creek DEIS
Watch for an update and action item first part of next week on the Friends of CCMA website and I will also post an update on this website.

Thanks for your service!

Friday, January 15, 2010

Jan. 15 - Carnegie Legal Update

The General is back at Recreation HQ and has some great news on this day.

The court has set January 26 as its next “decision date.” This is according the newest post at OHMVR. Until then the park is OPEN.

OHMVR Website Post
http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=26096


Update: On January 14th, the Court of Appeal, in San Francisco, filed an order accepting an amicus letter brief from the State Water Resources Control Board (SWRCB), filed on January 11, 2010. This letter argued that the Superior Court in Alameda County lacks jurisdiction to close the park because PEER and CSPA failed to exhaust their administrative remedies with the Water Board first before going to the Court.

Peer and CSPA have until January 20th to file an opposition to the SWRCB letter.

State Parks and/or the SWRCB have until January 25th to file a reply to the opposition from PEER and CSPA.

The park will remain open pending further court action. We expect the court to make a decision on the issue of park closure on or after January 26, 2010.

This has been, and continues to be, a very important test case for water quality-based lawsuits filed by agenda driven environmental groups. Many nervous land owners, farmers, family businesses are also watching this case.

The General thanks all of you for your continued patience and willingness to help in the fight to keep our public lands open for responsible OHV use.

The Carnegie saga continues...

Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Carnegie Legal Update - Jan. 12, 2010

A quick legal update from the field. The General understands the AG successfully filed their brief with the appellate court on Monday, January 11.

Now we must wait for the court to make a decision. That time period could range from a couple of days to several weeks.

The park remains open for now until that decision is rendered.

*The General is in the field and out Recreation HQ for most of this week. However, he will check in and try and provide quick updates as neeeded.

Sunday, January 10, 2010

Mad as Hell Speech at Carnegie SVRA Rally


For those of you who missed being at this event, the Recreation HQ is proud to be able to share a clip from the December 28, 2009 Save Carnegie SVRA Rally. This video was shot by Bungee Brent – Dr. Xtreme. We owe him a great big thank you for capturing the rally on a DVD where over 1,000 off-roaders from as far away at Lake Tahoe came to rally in support of the park and in protest of anti-OHV groups who file politically motivated lawsuits that have nothing to do with the environment or science.

Video Clip of AMA Dist. 36’s – Dave Pickett’s “Mad as Hell – Will You Fight?” Speech
and BRC’s – Don Amador – “Day of Infamy and We are going to Win” Speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haj3HTQHCv4




For Updates on Carnegie and other OHV and Land Use Issues
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/



AMA D36 members should be proud of the District’s response to this crisis. I know the Recreation HQ is proud of Mr. Pickett, Dave Duffin, and the many families and individuals who showed up and are answering the call to fight for their sport.

The General thanks you for your service in the defense of access to public lands.

Jan. 11 - Legal Fog Hangs Over Carnegie Crisis


The Recreation HQ has received several emails from riders who want to know what exactly is going to happen at Carnegie on the magic date of January 11, 2010.

The General has worked hard to sift through the rhetoric in order to inform Carnegie fans if the park will stay open or not until the water permit has been approved.

As some of you know, OHMVR has been ordered by the appellate court to submit its written argument on January 11, 2010. But that is where the clarity ends and the uncertainty of the park begins.

Based on my understanding of the appellate court (which is usually more moderate than a single activist judge), it can order any of the following actions:

After reviewing the state’s written argument, the court could decide to withhold any decision until after oral arguments are heard. However, the timeframe for them hearing any oral arguments could range from a few days up to several weeks or a month. What is uncertain is what the court would do regarding the park being open during the review period. It could remain open (a likely scenario) or the park could be closed.

Another option would be for the court to immediately review the argument that day and order the park to remain open or closed based on that review. Or, the court could give itself a certain timeframe (days or weeks) to review the arguments and render a decision during which time the park could remain open (a likely scenario) or the park could be closed.

Also, there are many other options as well that may or may not be just as convoluted.

The point I am trying to make is that nobody (including The General) can predict what the appellate court with do on Monday. It is very likely that the OHV community will not know the open or closed status of the park until 5 p.m. on Monday.

The General will be at meetings this next week (Mon – Thurs) so he may have limited amounts of time to post updates, but rest assured he will do his best. In the meantime, be sure and monitor the OHMVR Official Website for updates. They have worked hard to keep you informed.

Thanks for your service!

Friday, January 8, 2010

Mountain Bike History Lesson in OHV Wars


The General believes the Carnegie crisis has actually had a positive impact as you look at the overall picture of land-use fights to preserve and protect responsible OHV recreation on public and private lands.

Besides awakening Bay Area off-roaders to the fact that anti-OHV groups have the sport square in their crosshairs, it has caused a lot of those same folks who also ride mountain bikes to ask the question, “Where are the mountain bike groups in the access fight?”

The onus for today’s study of OHV Wars is based on a recent article published in IMBA’s Magazine as written by Jen Dice.

2010 IMBA Article
http://www.sharetrails.org/uploads/Jenn_Dice_Article_MtnBkMag_Jan2010.pdf



The tough talk is welcome but my question is if IMBA has resolved its inner turmoil between the group’s pro-Wilderness advocates (some of the old IMBA hardliners have a motto which goes like this, “We have never met a Wilderness Bill that we won’t support – even if it bans mountain bikes”) v. some others who believe that IMBA should work more closely with groups like BRC and AMA to defend trail access rights?

This internal struggle was documented in an excellent 2006 article in Mountain Bike Action Magazine (a very good and informative read)
http://www.sharetrails.org/magazine/article.php?id=755



In my position with BRC, I had extended the hand of partnership to IMBA and other mountain bikers to join us in a fight to have the BLM include mountain bike and equestrian use on a large number of existing logging roads (over 50 miles) in the Headwaters Forest Reserve. This was a case where BRC (and The General) was willing to lead the fight to protect equestrian and mountain bike access in this area. In fact, it was not an OHV issue since OHV use had never occurred there and we were not asking for it. Sadly, IMBA rejected our offer and the BLM only gave them about 3 miles instead of 50 or more.

Link to Info/Overview of Headwaters Battle where non-motorized users got screwed
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2009/02/headwaters-forest-good-idea-or-raw-deal.html



The Recreation HQ hopes the new readers of the blog will find these history lessons useful as they get up to speed on land use issues.

Thanks for your service!


Thursday, January 7, 2010

Carnegie Update for Jan. 7


As we get closer to the Jan. 11 date when the appellate court will decide if Carnegie stays open for public use while the permitting process is underway, the Recreation HQ has received a number of questions from riders who want to know if there is anything OHV legal interests can do to help at Carnegie (and other places as well) regarding 3rd party status in the ongoing legal fight between state parks/AG’s office and eco-groups?

While there is not currently an opening for OHV legal interests to weigh in formally as a 3rd party in this current lawsuit, a recent legal victory for OUR side was realized back in September 2009.

See Blog on this Victory (lots of good legal info)
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2009/09/good-news-fed-judge-blocks-green-prelim.html



What The General has tried to explain to some riders is that BRC and others are effectively engaged in the fight to preserve access to public lands. And, just because we have not been able to join in the legal fight at Carnegie, that fact, does not prohibit state parks from using a precedent setting legal decision in our favor that could allow the court panel to measure PEER’s claim of irreparable harm against the new legal high bar set by the wolf case.

Be aware that The General and BRC counsel are engaged in the defense of responsible access to public lands in a number of venues both in and out of California.

Stay tuned for updates on Carnegie. The HQ is manned 24/7 during this crisis.
Feel free to sign up on this blog so you can follow issues and comment as well.

Thanks for your service!

Tuesday, January 5, 2010

New Direction for OHV Legal Interests in 2010?


The Carnegie saga woke up a lot of SF Bay Area off-roaders to the fact that motorized recreation is under a vicious and unrelenting assault by anti-OHV groups (that now include “fishing” organizations).
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Photo: Federal Road Ripping During a Flood Event
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It has also exposed the soft underbelly of some so-called environmental groups as having an agenda that has nothing to do with “protecting the environment” – but having everything to do with the exercise of political power over their adversaries. (e.g. timber, mining, OHV, ranching, developers, and farmers)

See my Blog on NIMBY War – this book confirms the political ambitions of enviro groups
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2009/12/book-review-nimby-wars-must-read-for.html



For several weeks, The General has stated he believes off-roaders will see an avalanche of anti-OHV lawsuits in 2010 and beyond based on junk science, crisis mongering, and non-substantive technical violations.

What you won’t see are those same environmental groups challenging aggressive TMR road decommissioning projects that do not have site-specific NEPA documents or worse yet are being worked on with heavy equipment during the wet season (yes, the same wet season when OHV use is either banned or severely restricted). It has been The General’s experience that enviros (and some agency staff) turn a blind-eye to resource impacts if the goal of the project level activity is to CLOSE an area or route to OHV use.

Recreation HQ believes that OHV legal interests should consider filing a lawsuit on federal travel planning projects where there are either gross or technical NEPA violations
or where there are sediment impacts that violate BMPs or other water quality regulations to important salmon (yes, real salmon habitat – not the Carnegie hoax fish habitat) fisheries.

The General is asking the troops to keep an eye open for examples that match the aforementioned scenario as depicted in today’s photograph.

Filing lawsuits against enviro groups or agency bureaucrats based on corruption, dishonesty, or bias - although sounding good - really don’t have much legal merit. However, environmental law suits based on NEPA, water quality, or ESA violations do have merit and maybe that is the type of suit OHV legal representatives should be looking for besides our standard intervention-type legal actions.

Feel free to leave a comment on this blog (you must be signed up as a follower to comment). And yes, your comments are important!

Thanks for your service!


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Tuesday, December 29, 2009

Miracle at 18600 Corral Hollow Road



Photo Left : Even the dog knows the fishing alliance is barking up the wrong tree.
Photo Right: The Famous Carnegie Hoax Fish
Other cool photos from Del Albright (thanks Del for coming!)
http://www.delalbright.net/Images/Carnegie/index.html


The lights were on late last night and then on again at o’dark thirty today at the Recreation HQ. The General was, and continues to be, impressed with the quality, caliber, and sincerity of the riders and supporters who came from as far away as Lake Tahoe to fellowship with the Carnegie off-road family in our time of need.

In my Friday Dec. 18 blog, I said the appeals process would need Divine intervention if it was to be successful in time to keep the park open. Based on the good news yesterday regarding the appellate court’s decision to keep the park open until at least until January 11, I think the many prayers that were offered for that intervention over Christmas were answered yesterday.

Dec. 18 Blog and Divine Intervention (mentioned in 1st paragraph)
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-12-19T05%3A47%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=7



Several riders have asked me if I believe in miracles? The answer is YES. Twice in the last year, my life was spared in a miraculous way.

Story on my Truck/Trailer blow out on I5 (click on photo for expanded view)
http://thegeneralsrecreationden.blogspot.com/2009/04/thank-god-for-good-samaritans.html


After reading a lot of news reports on the rally (most of which failed to note that this whole lawsuit by the now faux fishing group is based on a hoax), I think this article in the Stockton Record best captures what really happened at Carnegie yesterday (although the reporter mentions Divine intervention he does not credit it as I think he should have)

Stockton Record
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091229/A_NEWS/912290308/-1/A_NEWS#STS=g3svvebo.1tij


The Carnegie saga continues and so does the much larger battle for our sport in other riding areas. Future action items will be forthcoming. However, I think it is important for us to take a short pause and be thankful for this miracle. We also need to be thankful for OHMVR leadership and others who worked overtime during the holidays for their part in this miracle. To give thanks, consider a donation to a charity or food bank or some other act of kindness or service.

Besides honoring the work of Dave Duffin and his crew on behalf of Carnegie and honoring the many off-road families who attended the rally, I want to thank all the motorcycle clubs who came out wearing their colors in support of the park. I may be missing a few, but I do remember seeing representatives from the Oakland Motorcycle Club, Hayward Motorcycle Club, TimeKeepers Motorcycle Club, North Bay Motorcycle Club, High Sierra Motorcycle Club, and the California Enduro Riders Association. I also want to thank our 4WD brothers and sisters from CAL 4WD, Pirate 4x4.com, Diablo 4 Wheelers, and several others. If I left any clubs out, I apologize in advance. Things were a bit hectic yesterday.

Was this our own off-road version of a Miracle on 34th Street? I will let you make that call. As for The General and the staff at Recreation HQ – we believe.

Thanks for your service!!!
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Monday, December 28, 2009

Appeal Victory - Carnegie Stays Open Until Jan. 11

Great News! - It appears the appeal filed by OHMVR was successful. The panel has said the park will stay open at least until January 11, 2010 if not longer.

OHMVR Update on Appeal
http://www.ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=26096

KCRA Story
http://www.kcra.com/news/22076348/detail.html




Although this is very good news, the fight for Carnegie SVRA and our sport is not over. The General asks for you to stay engaged.

Stay tuned for updates and action items.

Happy New Year!!!

The General

Post Rally Update on Fight for Carnegie


The General wants to thank all of you who braved the rain to come out today and rally in support of Carnegie SVRA. Based on feedback from a number of event promoters who are used to tallying a crowd, their opinion was that over 1,500 OHVers were at the park today because of the rally.

Photo: L to R – Ed Santin, VP, AMA D36, Dave Pickett, President, AMA D36, Don Amador, BRC, and Rich Fern, Treasurer, AMA D36

Today, you took a stand for the park and against eco-fraud groups who use the courts to enact their political agenda. I believe the rally will go down in off-road history books as the day when OHVers took a stand.

Thanks also for stopping by the BRC booth and visiting with me and/or signing up for a BRC membership. You are why I was there.

Stay tuned to this and other websites and blogs for updated information as there could be news very soon regarding the success or failure of the appeal filed by state parks and submitted to the court last Thursday.

Also, be sure and watch Channels 2 and 5 in the Bay Area and Channel 3 in Sacramento tonight regarding TV coverage. There may be on other TV stations as well.

Thanks again for your service!!!

Friday, December 25, 2009

Christmas Day Carnegie Update


Because many OHV families will be checking the internet before they open their Christmas stockings and presents today, I wanted to do a quick update on the Carnegie Crisis.

Story in the Contra Costa Times on Carnegie Crisis
http://www.contracostatimes.com/search/ci_14068319?IADID=Search-www.contracostatimes.com-www.contracostatimes.com



I think if you read the entire article, you will find (albeit not clearly stated) that politics and an anti-OHV agenda are behind the suit. Equally outrageous and insulting are when those groups recite their over used, tired, and completely disingenuous phrase in the article that The General has heard all too often…”We have nothing against off-roading. We have nothing against the concept of off-road parks. They've just got to comply with the same regulations as everybody else." That phrase is taken right out of the eco-handbook “How to be an Anti-OHV Activist 101.”

Maybe that “Rodney King” mindset is why environmental interests including Mark Connolly - who has a ranch that borders the park - have fought and objected every step of the way for the last 10-12 years to block the expansion of the park onto the new properties bought with OHV money for OHV use and who is also listed on page one and elsewhere in the suit filed against the park.

Text of Lawsuit Filed Against Park
http://www.peer.org/docs/ca/09_17_9_California_Carnegie_SVRA.pdf




The article also references an appeal that was filed by the state to try and keep the park open. The General believes the state was successful in getting that appeal into the hands of the court on Thursday. Now I believe it goes before a 3 judge panel that will review the appeal.

I don’t believe much will happen between now and Monday, but hopefully there will be news then on if and when the panel will hear the case and make a decision. That could be a matter of days or several weeks. We should know more next week.

In the meantime, the Recreation HQ wishes you a Merry Christmas.

Thursday, December 24, 2009

Day Before Christmas Carnegie Crisis Update


On the day before Christmas, The General wanted to leave riders with a couple of thoughts.

Even though many Bay Area off-roaders are still in a state of shock while trying to mentally process the impact of our own “OHV Version” of Pearl Harbor, I am proud of your response to this unprovoked and senseless attack on families who like to ride.

The Carnegie Crisis may even eclipse the gut punch felt by OHVers when the BLM announced the blanket closure of Clear Creek to ALL users in May 2008.

See Joint Statement by OHV Organizations on Clear Creek DEIS
http://www.sharetrails.org/



What makes the Carnegie Crisis so unique is that it caught thousands of Bay Area riders off-guard since many of them had not been keeping track of battles already being fought in the OHV Wars (circa 2002 – present). To these recreationists the war was being fought on “distant lands.” Those far off fights were mostly on lands managed by the Forest Service or BLM.

Did this attack awaken a sleeping giant? I think it did. As I told one news reporter, never before in my 20 years of being on the front lines of many environmental battles have I ever received the volume of phone calls or emails in such a short period on any given issue. The tone and direction of most calls was a substantive response. The vast majority of folks stated they want to join the battle and be part of the solution.

As we get ready to celebrate Christmas with our families, The General would like to leave you with a set of orders.

1 - Enjoy Your Family – Celebrate this season with your loved ones despite the crisis

2- Join BRC and its effort to preserve and protect OHV recreation in CA and elsewhere. You can earmark donations to the BRC General Fund or to the BRC Legal Fund at the site below
https://www.sharetrails.org/secure/join_or_contribute/?c=1

3- Join AMA District 36 as they are a critical partner on this and other land use fights
http://www.ama-d36.org/


4- Join a local OHV club – there are many in the Bay Area

5 - Attend the Fellowship Ride on Dec. 28 at Carnegie

6- Prepare for this and other fights that will be coming at us in 2010 and beyond
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As I have stated before, the OHV community will be defined by how it responds to this crisis.

Even though the Recreation HQ will be closed for the Christmas/New Year’s Holiday Season, be assured The General will be monitoring the action and posting important updates on the Carnegie Crisis. See you on the 28th.

The General wishes you all a Merry Christmas!!!

If folks would like to contact The General via snail mail, his address is below:
Don Amador
Recreation HQ
555 Honey Lane
Oakley, CA 94561
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Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Tuesday Dec. 22 Update on the Fight for Carnegie


The General has received a number of emails from riders who are asking, “Why have you been saying the Park’s last day of operation is Monday December 28 rather then agreeing with the Division’s after-hearing December 18 FAQ post on their website?”

OHMVR December 18 FAQ Post on Closure
http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=26096
Link to hard copy STAY
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My concern was the uncertainty of the verbal court decision issued December 18 that said the STAY expired on December 29. Historically, state laws, regulations, and court decisions often take effect one minute after midnight on the cited day. I did not want to be telling riders for certain that the park would be open December 29 if there was ANY doubt in my mind.

It has been The General’s experience that verbal court decisions can change or be interpreted differently between when the court issues the verbal decision and when the affected parties actually receive the hard copy of the court document.

Since the verbal decision was issued, The Recreation HQ contacted OHMVR and requested that his office be informed when the Division received the actual document that would verify if the park was open until the close of business on December 29 or if the park was closed one minute after midnight on December 29.

Just this morning, I received confirmation from OHMVR that in fact the park would remain open for public use until the unit closes on December 29. That confirmation is based on hard copy documents OHMVR received on December 21. Note link above to hard copy that I got off the court website.

That information is good news as it will allow riders one more day to enjoy the park. In the meantime, OHV luminaries, legendary racers, business owners, and others are planning to be at the park on Monday December 28 for fellowship and trail rides. The Monday fellowship also works well for families that are taking a long vacation weekend and already have the day off.

At the end of the day, I don’t think there was anything wrong with the OHMVR’s original post that the park would be open through the end of business on December 29 v.
The General’s more pessimistic/jaded “wait and see” approach. Both are valid.

Thanks for staying involved and engaged in the Battle for Carnegie. I believe the time is rapidly approaching for a targeted letter writing campaign. Stay tuned.