***Sept 8 - CORRECTION - The BRC Sample Letter is citing data from the 2007 SPOA report (not 2009 as is in the sample letter) The data is from the 2007 SPOA, Table 133, pages 162-163. Sorry for any mixup. *******************************
This is a DEFCON ONE Action Alert from HQ. As many of you already know, far-left anti-OHV
groups led by Save Tesla Park and PEER have been collaborating with East Bay
Regional Park District to prohibit OHV use on the new Tesla property at
Carnegie SVRA.
You must attend the District’s public meetings which
start next week throughout Contra Costa and Alameda Counties. You must also send in a comment letter and
also go on their Master Plan blog/forum and post comments as well. (links to Master Plan, blog, forum, etc. in
alert below)
BRC has issued an alert today with contact info, a sample
letter, and overview.
BRC September 6 - Carnegie/Tesla
Alert and Overview
http://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/2012/09/06/extreme-environmental-groups-collaborate-with-east-bay-region-park-district-to-impose-closureagenda-on-propose
Be watching for a formal and detailed BRC comment
letter. Also, the OHV Commission has
placed this issue on their agenda for the Sept. 15 meeting in Placerville. HQ will be there.
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I request the District immediately remove the Tesla/Alameda property from the 2007 General Plan Map.
ReplyDeletePlease note correction in the BRC sample letter. The correction is noted above. It cites data from the 2007 SPOA not the 2009 SPOA.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you people get a life! This park has been around forever and it keeps family's togerther and kids out of trouble. If you don't like it move away its that easy!!
ReplyDeleteAs an avid OHV enthusiast and family man, I am saddened by the continued attempt to reduce and end the use of California trails for OHV use. Carnegie SVRA is our local OHV area. This land and sport has been enjoyed by our family and friends for as long as I can remember. I respectfully request that the distric immediately remove the Tesla/Alameda property from the 2007 General Plan Map.
ReplyDeleteYou all need to know who you are fighting here, Celeste Garamendi(see article below*). She is the one behind the Friends of Tesla Park movement. She is married to Mark Conolly, yes the Mark Conolly that brought the original lawsuit. The lawyer that "owns" the homesteaded ranch that brought the original lawsuit with the whole water in the river BS. These two will stop at nothing to try and stop the expansion of the land that WE THE OHV Community bought. His interest I believe is to obtain the land to further expand his Elk slaughter business with the state. He makes tens of thousands of dollars on Elk slaughter on his fenced in land which is akin to shooting fish in a barrel (see article below**).
ReplyDeleteIt is time to get militant with these people, NOT by violence but by letter writing and emailing them directly. Make sure that they are clear that you will tell everyone you know about what they are doing with "their homesteaded" land...slaughtering Elk, letting their cattle soil the river with their urine and faeces
*Although the state intends to
create an off-highway vehicle
(OHV) park with 3000 acres it
bought next to Carnegie motorcycle
park, Celeste Garamendi is
working hard to change those
plans. Garamendi, a Tracy resident
whose husband owns a ranch near
the park on Tesla Road, has
formed Friends of Tesla Park. The
organization is getting the word
out to public agencies and conservation
groups that an OHV park would disrupt
sensitive habitat.
**Connolly helps maintain all of this through his agreement with the state. He rotates his Black Angus bulls around the 9,000-acre ranch to ensure there is enough forage left for the elk. He provides water sources and sometimes hay. He thins the juniper and pine trees to reduce the odds of catastrophic fire.
The hunt helps offset the cost of all this. For $10,500, a hunter can buy a tag to pursue one of the bulls (Elk) during a four-day guided hunt on Connolly's ranch. Probably only one bull will be taken this year, Connolly said; the number is set so elk will not be over-harvested, but also so the herd does not grow so large that it eats all the grass and starves itself.
Another example of an organization trying to protect us from the evils of off-road fun.the tax paying citizens of this state deserve better when land purchased and designated for a specific use is held hostage for reasons unknown.perhaps PEER should be changed to PEFR. public employees for fiscal responsibility.please tell me you have more important issues at hand than land use owned by the state that so generously overcompensates all of its employees.
ReplyDeleteMy god , has Karen Shumbach no shame ? first she moves to the Seirra's and steals 'ROCK CREEK " HER new backyard ( see nimby )after L.A.D.B. ( LOS ALTOS DIRT BIKERS ) put in years and hundreds of hours to build staging areas and trails , to protect the " winter HARVEST deer herd" . Now with another phony balony orginisation , she wants to close Carnegie , probably to help Mark Connely PURCHASE the land and slaughter captive elk . Truly , greed knows no boundries .
ReplyDeleteI couldn't understand why anyone would go to such efforts to prevent and restrict OHV use in that area. It's in the middle of frickin nowhere (check it out on google earth). Now I get it. Connolly wants to preserve his elk slaughter business!
ReplyDeleteWhat's going on across the street from Carnegie at the Livermore Lab facility???? How can anybody be concerned with our impact on the environment but turn a blind eye to explosive testing across the street! Based on this there should be no reason to prevent our expansion..... I guess we can use the newly acquired land for chemical storage and testing like the lab if we can't ride motorcycles there
ReplyDeletecrarnegie is famleyfun. keep's dirt bike's on the dirt off the street's . been to oakland lately. we pay for it to be open it's educational as well.that's our future's play ground
ReplyDeleteI respectfully request that the distric immediately remove the Tesla/Alameda property from the 2009 General Plan Map.
ReplyDeleteI can't help but notice the mention of East Bay Parks. As of the last few years I have been seeing motorcycle tire tracks in the east bay regional parks! The tire tracks are from the regional parks own Yamaha mounted police force. I'm not just talking about dual track, I've seen them on single tracks as well. If it's good enough for the East Bay Regional Park District then it's good enough for us. I demand the removal of the Tesla/Alemeda property from the 2009 general plan map.
ReplyDeleteWhy would any SANE person want to take away harmless dirt bike riding for kids AND their families that is most likely keeping those kids INVOLVED WITH THEIR FAMILIES instead of with gangs or on the streets.
ReplyDeleteSo instead they want to close Carnegie, take away the family connection and leave the kids to find something else to do.
Then our tax dollars can go to the prison system and not schools where our money should go!
Send those IDIOTS to another state to hunt.
It's all politics! POLITICAL BS! Wasting our tax dollars on BS!
STOP THIS CRAP & LEAVE CARNEGIE ALONE!!!
Site 300 is across the street and has been testing weapons and explosives for over 30 years. I personally have built enclosures that LLNL filled with explosives and tested at site 300. They have about 7,000 acres that has been used specifically as a test site and "YOU PEOPLE" are worried about expanding 3,000 acres for trail riding for motorcycles.
ReplyDeleteA 10,000 lb. bomb will do more damage to the earth than a thousand motorcycles every weekend could do in ten years at Carnegie.
Carnegie looks better than it did 25 years ago, the park is cleaner and the trails are very well maintained. Leave us alone and let us ride bikes with our families!
My father and I rode at Hollister Hills (then the Howard Harris Ranch) from the `60's to present. He and I rode H.H. and Carnegie in the `70's. I've ridden and competed at H.H. and Carnegie in the `70's, `80's and `90's. I rode with my son at H.H. and Carnegie in the `90's, `00's, `10's. Now it's time to bring my grandson to H.H. and Carnegie. Please help us save and expand ALL of OUR S.V.R.A.'s. One fight at a time.
ReplyDeleteThe OHV parks system is the only one that pays for itself why would you not expand this system?
ReplyDeleteI respectfully request that the distric immediately remove the Tesla/Alameda property from the 2009 General Plan Map.
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I request that Carnegie be allowed to move forward with this nominal expansion of the only close OHV area to Contra Costa county. I have been riding there since 1973. An expansion of already owned land is long overdue.
ReplyDeleteFight smart. Fight to open this land to reduce major impacts on all other riding areas. We, the OHV users, need to push for the opening of more land so the land we currently have is not so drastically impacted. these environmental groups see OHV's as having negative impacts on the land. However they are to ignorant to realize that the more land they shut down the more the current open land is impacted. Dilution is the solution. Give folks more land to ride on and negative impacts can be more easily manageged. We are not going to stop riding. the more people try to stop OHV use the more they will snowball negative affects. environmental groups should work to support us and help us grow rather than try to shut us down and destroy land as a result. please shove this fact in there faces.
ReplyDeleteIf this park closes down because of you stupid environmentalists, this means war. You VS ever rider around California plus some. We have been going there with our children and friends for years, and years. You first block off the creek bed which flows almost never, AND YOU SUE THE PARK FOR SOME BULL S*** excuses saying there are toxins in the water below Carnegie’s surface...Ummmmm LOOK ACROSS THE STREET!!! THERE IS A GOVERMENT LAB OVER THERE YOU IDIOTS!!!!! BLAME THEM…..If you close Carnegie we will fight you...
ReplyDeleteCarnegie owns the land and should be allowed to expand. It would be a shame to not let it expand. This park (and many others) have been put through the ringer to be saved. I don't understand it. People that buy land around this park, knew of the park, it's complete BS that they feel they need to prevent Carnegie from expanding. It's a great place for families to go, and keeps kids interested and out of trouble! I have been riding here for 33 years and sincerly request that the district immediately remove the Tesla property from the 2009 general plan map.
ReplyDeleteI've been riding at Carnegie for well over thirty years, with friends and family. I believe that efforts to deny the OHV community access to land they have funded to aquire is an unjust perversion of environmental considerations. I respect the views of others, but not efforts to misuse due process. Pleas remove the Tesla property from the 2007 general plan map.
ReplyDeleteMichael D. Lubin
mikelubin@sbcglobal.net
LEAVE US BE....WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FORTY YEARS AT LEAST...TRACY SITS NEXT TO ONE OF THE LARGESET DEPOTS OF WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM AND A STATE PRISON AND YA DONT HERE US CRYING FOUL...YOU GO PLAT POLO WITH YOUR RICH FRIENDS AND LETS RIDE OUR OFF ROAD MACHINES ON LAND THAT IS FULL OF TRANCHALAS AND RATTLE SNAKES AND FERAL HOGS ..WE DONT ASK MUCH SO LEAVE US BE ,,,,POLITION LADY FROM TRACY
ReplyDeleteRON PARKER FORMER MARINE CORPS VIETNAM ERA VET AND OFF ROAD RIDER...PROUD MEMBER OF THE NRA AND FOE OF LAND GRABBERS FOR THIER FRIENDS AND FAMILY SUCH AS YOURSELF
Keep up the comments and let everyone in the OHV world know that you care. I am protective of the environment, but this attack on Carnegie and the Carnegie expansion has nothing to do with the environment.
ReplyDeleteIf we were a recognized minority we could sue for discrimination but we are just families from all walks of life. We pay for the maintenance of our off road riding parks and they are in better shape than many non-OHV parks.
I care when Lawrence Livermore Labs dump toxins in the environment as they did to such an extent that they became a Super Fund site. Federally recognized Super Fund sites are the worst of the worst in terms of environmental irresponsibility. Of course we care. We have families and children.
You can't call people like Karen, Celeste and their ilk environmentalists. They are people with a chip on their shoulders. They can't stand to see families playing together and having fun. Maybe it is time to find another name for them. Grinches or Green Nazis or maybe antichrists...
They are not environmentalists because if they were they would realize that we are better stewards of the land than our neighbors. On one side they test weapons and on the other side they kill wild beasts (not just elk) and allow their cattle to take dumps in the stream.
Keep it up and most importantly make comments on the East Bay Regional Parks District web-site on their master plan (leave Tesla alone) and on the Carnegie General Plan Web-site (open Tesla for off road riding). If we loose this one, not one of our parks is safe from their phony lying attacks.
Friends of Tesla (it never was a park)
ReplyDeleteThe previous owners of the area put in coal mines and brick factories. Neighbors let cattle graze and trample the area. I noticed across the street, what looks like an active cattle ranch. There are access roads, creeks dammed up, and almost every square yard of terrain has been stomped into cattle trails. It looks like a giant rake was taken to the hillsides.
It brings up the point why the Tesla section will be "on trail riding only".
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tesla+Road,+Livermore,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.644944,-121.577663&spn=0.003254,0.006877&sll=37.269174,-119.306607&sspn=13.38188,28.168945&oq=tesla+road&t=h&hnear=Tesla+Rd,+Livermore,+Alameda,+California+94550&z=18
Kevin Moore
From a non-OHV neutral source.
ReplyDeleteHistory of Tesla
http://www.teslacoalmines.org/Tesla.html
Tesla location and history
http://wikimapia.org/1787312/Tesla-Coal-Mine-Corral-Hollow
Kevin Moore